My dear F16, from F-4 drivers ....

[Knell]

Trouvé sur un forum ricain
Peut etre deja passé ici, En tous cas , hilarant


FROM: The Wild Weasels
SUBJECT: Gross Written Buffoonery
1. For your consideration... The following is reprinted, without permission. from Aimpoint, Naval Strike Review, Volume 9, Issue No.1, Winter 1993. Page 47.
CONCLUSION
(U) Today, the F-16 is one of the most widely deployed fighters in the world. Therefore, the likelihood is high of flying composite operations with the F-16 in the next exercise of war. With it's versatility and capability, the Viper has rapidly become the F-4 of the 1990s. Because of the newness of some of these missions, many F-16C units are starting on the ground floor. "Magnum", "Laser On" and "Fox III" are relatively new in the vocabulary of many Viper drivers. Despite this fact, we flex well to any situation, learn fast, and should always be a positive factor in the overall mission outcome.

2. In case you haven't noticed, the F-4 is the F-4 of the 1990s. Any comparison between that worthless piece of flying FOD that you buzz around in, and the mighty Phantom II, is insulting to the many men who have fought and died in the F-4. The Phantom II was flying Defence Suppression and Air Superiority missions over Hanoi, dropping LGB's with PAve Knife on the Paul Doumer Bridge, and flying CAS in the Iron Triangle (to mention just a few) long before your flying toy was a wet dream in the minds of the Texas Congressional Delegation.

3. The misplaced belief that the F-16 is a true multi-role fighter is no doubt a contributing factor to the common occurence of Vipers spearing into rocks, dirt, trees, other aircraft and large bodies of water with the pitot tube. The F-16 was designed to be a cheap, day VFR fighter and no amount of training or money will ever be able to overcome that limitation. If any aircraft today approaches the potential for comparison to the F-4, it is another two-seat, two-engined McDonnell Douglas product in the Air Force Service.

4. Any attempt to inflate your basement-level status by comparison to what is quite simply the best jet fighter ever built, and the defender of the free world for over 30 years, is a pitiful attempt to boost your egoby comparing yourself to better men flying a better aircraft. The F-4 has flown more types of mission, in a superlative fashion, than the F-16 could ever consider. We would all love to see the day when an F-16 lifts off with 24 Mk.82s and four AAMs on a combat mission. And the F-4 became the world's best ever distributor of MiG parts with 1950s technology AIM-7Es, AIM-9Bs and cannon, all without having to wait for the introduction of the AMRAAM.

5. The simple fact of the matter is that the dismal comabt performance of the F-16 in the Gulf War is directly responsible for the continuing service of both the F-4 and the A-10. The F-16's inability to deliver ordnance loads accurately resulted in the need to reattack targets, endangering men needlessly and wasting resources. It wasn't the F-16 that ran a SAM-killing 8-ship over Baghdad, through the most intense air defenses ever encountered by the USAF on the first night of the war. The only reason "Magnum" is even in your vocabulary is because the dwindling number of Phantoms led to the conclusion that an F-16 on the wing is better than nothing at all, but only just.

6. The only people that have not caught on to the glaring inadequacy of the F-16 are the people who drive them. The only foreign customer stupid enough to purchase the F-16 since the war has been Taiwan, largely because: (1) they placed their order long before the war, and (2) they had no real option because they were not offered the FA-18 and don't already operate the Phantom II. Even your own manufacturer bailed out of the the business as soon as they realized that they could no longer rely on general and gross stupidity to sell their flying failure.

7. To wrap this up, we greatly resent the misguided and faulty comparison of the F-4 Phantom II to the Fighting Falcon, the only fighter in history to be named after a second-rate college football team. Any resemblance between the McDonnell Douglas Phantom II Suoersonic All-weather Fighter Bomber (mostly bomber) and the miserable, single-seat, single-engine, computer designed, fly-by-wire, composite airframe, software-driven, day VFR, ice-FOD sucking, weakdick bubble canopied, target missing, ground impacting, non-hook raising, autotrimming, piddlepack ejecting, G-LOCing piece of flying pork barrel politics is limited to the fact that both aircraft have an F- designation. Your aircraft should have a blue stripe painted around the nose and " FOR TRAINING USE ONLY" stenciled on the fuselage. And you can go to the club tonight knowing that you, your article, and this letter occupy a significant place in our Doofer Book.

THE WILD WEASELS

[Hurricane]

And the F-4 became the world's best ever distributor of MiG parts with 1950s technology AIM-7Es, AIM-9Bs and cannon, all without having to wait for the introduction of the AMRAAM.

So true !!!



Ceci dit, les américains sont loin d'être les seuls responsables de cet état de fait... les F-4 israeliens et iraniens y sont pour beaucoup !

[Splash-Hawk]

long before your flying toy was a wet dream in the minds of the Texas Congressional Delegation.

mdr
Gross Written Buffoonery indeed !
Excellent, merci.

[Ric]

Un régal

[jojo]

Connu, mais toujours un plaisir

A poster en section FALCON 4.0

[Ric]

Ce qui était fait en premier lieu, mais étant donné que ce n'est pas lié à proprement au simu, j'ai déplacé ici.

[kekelekou]

"...weakdick bubble canopied..." [avec un gland de bite molle comme verrière...]

Voilà qui va largement changer mon point de vue sur cet avion!

[warbird2000]

C'est un peu de mauvaise foi

Pour la précision de bombardement

Il faut quand même rappeler que les f-16 israeliens , ont touché la centrale d'Osirak
En piqué de 30 degrés, les F-16 us ont gagné au moins un concours au usa

Certes ,Les résultats des f-16 pendant la guerre du Golfe n'ont pas été brillants au point de vue précsision
mais bombarder avec des bombes classiques depuis 20000 pieds n'a jamais été précis

Les 250 F-16 de l'usaf en 91 ont réalisé 43 % des sorties de bombardement de l'usaf
et ont affiché un taux de disponibilité de 95% et seulement trois avions perdus

Cela monte une nouvelle fois la mauvaise fois de certains dans l'usaf pour
qui un bon avion ne peut être que cher

Le f-35 va donc être le meilleur avion du monde

[jojo]

C'est un peu de mauvaise foi

Non, c'est complètement de mauvaise foi et partial, et c'est bien pour ça que c'est aussi drôle

[BadJack]

C'est un peu de mauvaise foi

Non, c'est complètement de mauvaise foi et partial, et c'est bien pour ça que c'est aussi drôle

Et tellement bien écrit ... !

[TOMPCAT]

mouais , bof...

[Deltafan]

On en avait déjà parlé :

http://www.checksix-forums.com/viewtopi ... Buffoonery

[Ric]

Oui, enfin 2007 y'a prescription

[Alambic]

7. To wrap this up, we greatly resent the misguided and faulty comparison of the F-4 Phantom II to the Fighting Falcon, the only fighter in history to be named after a second-rate college football team. Any resemblance between the McDonnell Douglas Phantom II Suoersonic All-weather Fighter Bomber (mostly bomber) and the miserable, single-seat, single-engine, computer designed, fly-by-wire, composite airframe, software-driven, day VFR, ice-FOD sucking, weakdick bubble canopied, target missing, ground impacting, non-hook raising, autotrimming, piddlepack ejecting, G-LOCing piece of flying pork barrel politics is limited to the fact that both aircraft have an F- designation. Your aircraft should have a blue stripe painted around the nose and " FOR TRAINING USE ONLY" stenciled on the fuselage. And you can go to the club tonight knowing that you, your article, and this letter occupy a significant place in our Doofer Book.

THE WILD WEASELS

En fait, ces gars ne font qu'énoncer des vérités basées sur des faits avérés.

La preuve ici:
Pilot lost jet using "piddle-pack"

[garance]

Il faut dire aussi que ce pamphlet est écrit dans la Naval Strike Review

en clair les marins se paient la frime des aviateurs

[jojo]

It wasn't the F-16 that ran a SAM-killing 8-ship over Baghdad, through the most intense air defenses ever encountered by the USAF on the first night of the war

Entre la signature "Wild Weasels" et ce passage, on peut quand même suspecter les équipages de F-4G de régler leurs comptes...

[OPIT]

Dans un contexte bon enfant ça pourrait me faire sourire mais comme ça, de but en blanc, c'est juste un mélange d'arrogance, de méchanceté et de mauvaise foi outrancière.

[jojo]

Si, il y a un contexte: c'est la réponse à un article dont le paragraphe 1 cite la conclusion, présentant le F-16 comme le nouvel avion à tout faire.

Bien sûr la réponse est de mauvaise foi

[JulietBravo]

7. To wrap this up, we greatly resent the misguided and faulty comparison of the F-4 Phantom II to the Fighting Falcon, the only fighter in history to be named after a second-rate college football team. Any resemblance between the McDonnell Douglas Phantom II Suoersonic All-weather Fighter Bomber (mostly bomber) and the miserable, single-seat, single-engine, computer designed, fly-by-wire, composite airframe, software-driven, day VFR, ice-FOD sucking, weakdick bubble canopied, target missing, ground impacting, non-hook raising, autotrimming, piddlepack ejecting, G-LOCing piece of flying pork barrel politics is limited to the fact that both aircraft have an F- designation. Your aircraft should have a blue stripe painted around the nose and " FOR TRAINING USE ONLY" stenciled on the fuselage. And you can go to the club tonight knowing that you, your article, and this letter occupy a significant place in our Doofer Book.

THE WILD WEASELS

En fait, ces gars ne font qu'énoncer des vérités basées sur des faits avérés.

La preuve ici:
Pilot lost jet using "piddle-pack"

Besoin de faire un pause pipi après seulement 40 minutes de vol !...

[anto-big-boss]

La parodie trouvée par TOPOLO est assez formidable !

1. In case you hadn't noticed, the AN-2 is the AN-2 of the 1920s. Any comparison between that worthless piece of flying FOD that you buzz around in and the COLT is insulting to the many men who have fought and died in the AN-2. Mainly "died". Not much "fought". Anyway, the AN-2 was flying crop-dusting, and transport missions over Eastern European farms and Polish Air-shows, dropping pesticide, and delivering people to distant locations long before your flying toy was a wet dream in the minds of the Texas Congressional Delegation.

The F-16 was designed to be a cheap, day VFR fighter and no amount of training or money will ever be able to overcome that imitation. If any aircraft today approaches the potential for comparison to the AN-2, it is the NASA Space Shuttle and/or the Concorde.

2. Any attempt to inflate your basement-level status by comparison to what is, quite simply the best aircraft built and the Defender of Farming for over 70 Years, is a pitiful attempt to boost your ego by comparing yourself to better men flying a better aircraft. The AN-2 has flown more types of missions, in a superlative fashion, than the F-16 could ever consider. We would all love to see the day when an F-16 lifts off with 12 Paratroopers and four canisters of pesticide on a Polish Air-show mission. And the AN-2 became the world's best ever distributor of cattle parts with 1920s technology, and the ability to land in fields full of cows.

3. The simple fact of the matter is that the dismal combat performance of the F-16 in the Gulf War is directly responsible for the continuing service of the AN-2, used to transport the F-16 parts back to base.
It wasn't the F-16 that ran a pesticide drop through the most intense air defenses ever encountered by the USAF over Baghdad on the first night of the war. The only reason "Magnum" is even in your vocabulary is because the dwindling number of AN-2's led to LESS targets for SAM installations.

The only people that have not caught on to the glaring inadequacy of the F-16 are the people who drive them. The only foreign customer stupid enough to purchase the F-16 since the war has been Taiwan, largely because: they are Taiwanese, and - therefore - stupid.

4. To wrap this up, we greatly resent the misguided and faulty comparison of the AN-2 Colt to the Fighting Falcon. Any resemblance between the AN-2 Colt, All-Weather, Pesticide Deliver/Transport (Mostly Airshows), and the Viper is limited to the fact that both are aircraft

[_12F_Corsair]

Certes ,Les résultats des f-16 pendant la guerre du Golfe n'ont pas été brillants au point de vue précsision
mais bombarder avec des bombes classiques depuis 20000 pieds n'a jamais été précis

Les 2000D français l'ont bien fait pendant Allied Force, avec une excellente précision (30 mètres à 25 000 ft).

[jojo]

Certes ,Les résultats des f-16 pendant la guerre du Golfe n'ont pas été brillants au point de vue précsision
mais bombarder avec des bombes classiques depuis 20000 pieds n'a jamais été précis

Les 2000D français l'ont bien fait pendant Allied Force, avec une excellente précision (30 mètres à 25 000 ft).

Ouais mais attends, tu parles de l'élite des bombardiers Français du moment là. French touch

Voilà, ça c'est fait

[EnZo34]

Pilot lost jet using "piddle-pack"

7. To wrap this up, we greatly resent the misguided and faulty comparison of the F-4 Phantom II to the Fighting Falcon, the only fighter in history to be named after a second-rate college football team. Any resemblance between the McDonnell Douglas Phantom II Suoersonic All-weather Fighter Bomber (mostly bomber) and the miserable, single-seat, single-engine, computer designed, fly-by-wire, composite airframe, software-driven, day VFR, ice-FOD sucking, weakdick bubble canopied, target missing, ground impacting, non-hook raising, autotrimming, piddlepack ejecting, G-LOCing piece of flying pork barrel politics is limited to the fact that both aircraft have an F- designation. Your aircraft should have a blue stripe painted around the nose and " FOR TRAINING USE ONLY" stenciled on the fuselage. And you can go to the club tonight knowing that you, your article, and this letter occupy a significant place in our Doofer Book.

THE WILD WEASELS

En fait, ces gars ne font qu'énoncer des vérités basées sur des faits avérés.

La preuve ici:
Pilot lost jet using "piddle-pack"

Besoin de faire un pause pipi après seulement 40 minutes de vol !...

C’est vraiment un avion de chiote , et

[Rob1]

C'est encore mieux en anglais : A really a piss-poor plane.

[BadJack]

C'est encore mieux en anglais : A really a piss-poor plane.

Ah ouais, mais quel simu !